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ktm 1290 adv高速抖動問題

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发表于 2016-8-11 20:28 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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各位前輩你的ktm 1290 adv 在時速170公里以上時~是否抖動的厲害呢?在完全無掛任何行李箱狀況下!
 楼主| 发表于 2016-8-11 20:37 | 显示全部楼层
150~170巡航還ok!170~190抖動厲害~200就無法接收的抖動,非常怕甩頭!不是開玩笑的怕也非膽小的怕!各位前輩的1290 adv會這樣嗎?
发表于 2016-8-11 23:16 | 显示全部楼层
150就开始抖了 再快就更厉害了 至今还没解决。
发表于 2016-8-12 03:24 | 显示全部楼层
楼上有1290ADV吗?呵呵。

LZ 注意一下你的电子减震器设定。
发表于 2016-8-12 08:26 | 显示全部楼层
不知道楼主所说的高速抖动是个什么状况,我相信楼主不会把正常的震动认为是抖动。
我的1190、1190r在不带边箱仅有尾箱的情况下最快时速200没有任何不正常的抖动发生,在高速上横风较大时,能够感觉到身体会产生晃动,车身仍然很稳。
在说下我骑过的几台1190adv、1290adv安装了边箱的情况,1290adv原厂边箱标注最高时速150,千万不可以超过150,超过这个速度后轮会发生大幅度晃动,速度越快晃动越大,目前有消息KTM有针对原厂边箱的浮动支架套件对此问题进行改进,据说最高时速可以到180,等有车友安装之后有机会我在试试。
我自己的1190adv安装了givi的TRK边箱,实测在时速180以内没有任何晃动,超过180会发生晃动,在后座带人的情况下,时速200没有任何晃动。
本地有多位1190、1190r车友安装了国产的涂菲乐三箱,均反映时速超过180的时候后轮会发生晃动。
我分析楼主说的抖动有多种可能性,检查胎压、检查减震设定、检查轮毂有无变形。
提醒一句,很多问题其实在说明书里都能找到,多看看说明书吧。
 楼主| 发表于 2016-8-12 14:51 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ~變色龍~ 于 2016-8-12 15:01 编辑

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10KTd8nAEE8    這是youtube的視頻!車種是1190r版,未裝任何行李箱的狀況下,
我的1290也會,但樓上的大大建議我也會去試試
尤其調整避震阻尼!不好意思優酷不會上傳



发表于 2016-8-12 16:31 | 显示全部楼层
视频我看了,与我骑1190r急加速的时候出现的情况类似,在时速7-80的时候猛给油会出现与视频中类似的抖动,我的1190普版没有出现过这种情况。
因为自己没有1290adv,没有遇到过这种情况,请仔细调整所有辐条,看下说明书调整一下轮胎胎压,减震调到几种模式都试下。
发表于 2016-8-12 18:27 | 显示全部楼层
会思考的猪 发表于 2016-8-12 03:24
楼上有1290ADV吗?呵呵。

LZ 注意一下你的电子减震器设定。

人家有没有1290ADV和跟帖有关系?还呵呵~~~看不起人的意思?学学你楼下的,人家怎么帮楼主分析的。不咸不淡来句电子减震设定,来混分的吧,
 楼主| 发表于 2016-8-13 00:05 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ~變色龍~ 于 2016-8-13 00:07 编辑

In the afternoon of August 10, 2015 there had been a serious accident on the A7 in Germany close to exit Kassel-Süd. The 55 year old driver from Hanover got very seriously injured and had to be taken by helicopter to the hospital, and was fortunate enough to survive his crash. The accident was one not involving other vehicles. The KTM was carrying original side-panniers supplied by KTM (manufactured by Touratech) and a BMW R 1200 GS topcase (see picture above). In the side-panniers there is a warning that a maximum load of 15 kg is allowed and that 130 kmh / 80 mph as maximum speed with load should be considered. In the user manual KTM advices to drive slower when using side-panniers or other cases / packing, and described a maximum speed of 150 kmh / 94 mph. At higher speeds the motorcycle could become instable. The driver had been driving faster than the limit prescribed by KTM.  German motorcycle magazine Motorrad had in the past already complained about (very) instable handling with both the KTM 1190 and 1290 Adventure range which has been extensively tested by their crew (see Motorrad 23/2014, Motorrad 7/2015 and Motorrad 9/2015).  The KBA, Kraftfahrt-BundesAmt which is the German version of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, had done an investigation on this case. Their conclusion is that the driver had not (properly) followed instructions to stay below 150 kmh / 94 mph when his KTM was carrying luggage, and that there was no indication or information pointing to a technical problem with the motorcycle. In simple words, the driver drove faster than safety instructions had told him to do. And gives the impression to continue to live on Cloud 9 with this conclusion.  I find the behavior of KTM in this very unfortunate, and I think it is (going to) harm KTMs reputation. Especially as the KTM Adventure range of motorcycles are build with touring in mind, and one is not buying a 150+ hp motorcycle to be limited to 150 kmh / 94 mph traveling on the highway when being on a tour with luggage packed on his/her motorcycle. One would expect his motorcycle of this known brand, with such engine performance at such high price be capable of dealing with this! On top a major competitor of the KTM 1190 Adventure (R) being the BMW R 1200 GS is released to handle 180 kmh / 113 mph under the same circumstances and shows no issues at 200+ kmh.  Aside of “high speed wobble” reaching the level of a completely unhandable motorcycle when carrying luggage, some KTM owners are complaining about same instability even without luggage and driving solo (see video below as an example showing instability at 190 kmh / 119 mph on a KTM 1190 Adventure R)! For me this is another indication that there is definitely something not good enough. KTM should be worried about the performance of the adventure range of motorcycles compared to the expectation customers have about this product on base of performance / price / brand image, instead of continuing to hide behind limitations described in their user manual! I had stopped looking to the KTM Adventure range after having read from your customers complaining on instability at high-speeds before this accident. And the accident as well as the follow up on it has confirmed for me at least that I made the right decision.  Dear KTM, make your adventure line-up of motorcycles live up to the expectations customers are having for such a premium product designed for touring application!在國外也有好多例子,甚至是事故!
发表于 2016-8-13 01:01 | 显示全部楼层
lijingyule 发表于 2016-8-12 18:27
人家有没有1290ADV和跟帖有关系?还呵呵~~~看不起人的意思?学学你楼下的,人家怎么帮楼主分析的。不咸不 ...

呵呵

没车 又没骑过车的  说出来的话 有可信度?

看不起谁了?

你文革思维真重。
发表于 2016-8-14 10:47 | 显示全部楼层
~變色龍~ 发表于 2016-8-13 00:05
In the afternoon of August 10, 2015 there had been a serious accident on the A7 in Germany close to  ...

英文不好,google翻译看了下,大概意思是
1:手册里面说了箱子的载重及最高时速。
2:经过调查没有发现车存在问题,而是驾驶员超速了?(如果不对请指正)
3:吐槽KTM,这点倒是和国内的情况很想象。
我是KTM车主,只能算半个KTM粉,不是脑残粉,我坚信一点没有完美的车,1290adv我骑过几次,昨天和两位1290adv车主一起跑的时候还交流带边箱摇晃的问题,南京三台1290adv(都是原厂三箱),我骑过的那一台时速150带三箱会出现后轮摇晃的情况,而他们两人的1290adv却没有这个情况出现,可以跑180,这两人身高体重比较接近(都比我略高略重),他俩调侃是不是车主太轻了(车主170左右)。视频里面出现的情况,就目前我身边几位1190、1290车主均未反应出现过这样的情况,就之前和你说的我骑1190r急加速前轮抖动的情况,其他人骑这台1190r反而没有出现过(他骑车比我猛),出现问题多沟通多交流,总能找到问题所在。
发表于 2016-8-15 20:13 | 显示全部楼层
检查前后轮有没有偏摆,做动平衡
发表于 2016-8-23 12:42 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
我的不挂箱子没有抖动严重问题,我的是R。
都是原厂状态的话,检查检查轮胎,轮圈,动平衡啥的。应该不至于,1290估计得极速270280吧
发表于 2016-9-26 14:23 | 显示全部楼层
我有些不解,骑那么快为了什么呢,高速公路限速120,国道就不要讲了,这又不是德国。就是在德国,高速行驶还是去骑1600rt吧。
发表于 2016-9-26 14:26 | 显示全部楼层
我之所以买1190,因为当时水鸟越野能力差(心里还是很喜欢),versys不是钢丝轮。买这么大车就是想拉上行李和老婆,需要功率大的车,压根没想去彪高速。无数身边走掉的车友时刻提醒我们,慢点能活到老。
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